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The Notary blamed for a late signer’s will

An old woman surrounded by torn pages from a will.

Editor’s note: This is the first in a series of articles covering actual Notary errors and omissions (E&O) claims that did not go as anyone expected.

A Notary watched a 94-year-old signer read every page, tear up the documents twice, and finally sign. Then the signer died, the family scattered, and the Notary was the only one left to sue.

That’s what happened to a Notary Public sued for notarizing an elderly woman’s signature on estate documents in a rehabilitation facility. The signer appeared alert, engaged, and in charge of her own affairs. She signed estate documents, including a power of attorney and a will, along with a revocation of transfer on death deed that disinherited her son. When she died, the son sued. By the time the dust settled, the Notary’s $100,000 E&O policy was almost gone, and the story had become a cautionary tale of what happens when a Notary does everything right but is targeted by a lawsuit due to unforeseen circumstances.

What the Notary saw

By every measure that matters to a careful Notary Public, this was a clean job. The Notary performed the notarizations in the signer’s presence, and there was no question about the signer’s identity. The Notary credibly recounted the signer’s mental state in court. While the signer was 94, her memory was sharp. She read the documents. She asked questions. She paid close attention to what she was signing.

However, she initially refused to sign the documents. At the first visit, the signer tore up the documents and sent the Notary away. Only at a later appointment, when the signer was ready, did she choose to sign the documents and have her signature notarized.

There is nothing wrong with coming back to a signer who isn’t ready. In fact, walking away when a signer hesitates is exactly what a careful Notary should do. But what a Notary sees in real life can look very different in a courtroom.

What the Notary didn’t see coming

After the signer’s death, the disinherited son sued. He sued the family members who had gained from the new estate plan. He sued the Notary as well.

Then the case took two turns that no Notary would expect.

First, the family members didn’t defend themselves and never appeared in court. The disinherited son obtained default judgments against them. That left the Notary as the only remaining defendant and the only realistic source of financial recovery. Whatever the truth of the underlying dispute, the Notary’s E&O policy was now what the lawsuit was really about.

Second, the signer had died, and the family members were unavailable. No living witness could back up the Notary’s account of how clear, alert, and willing the signer had been. The Notary’s testimony was credible. But honest testimony alone doesn’t always win a case. The son argued that his mother was confused, resistant to signing (as shown by her repeatedly tearing up the documents), and ultimately pressured into signing by other family members. The son claimed she was not sharp and signing of her own free will, as the Notary had observed.

The E&O eye-opener

Even so, the insurer and the Notary’s defense counsel believed the Notary would likely win at trial. The problem was that the E&O policy would be exhausted by the conclusion of the case.

The Notary’s defense had already cost a lot. Taking the case all the way to a verdict would have used up what was left of the $100,000 policy and may have required the Notary to pay out of pocket for additional legal defense costs. If the Notary had lost at trial, the Notary could have been on the hook personally for the judgment itself. The Notary’s future financial well-being was at great risk, so the insurer chose instead to settle at mediation to protect the Notary’s best interests.

The settlement amount of $72,000 plus the legal fees already spent, used up the policy. There was one piece of good news, though. The settlement agreement released the Notary from any further claims or liability arising from the notarization. In the end, the policy did what it was designed to do: protect the Notary.

The takeaways for Notaries in this lawsuit

No Notary plans to be in this kind of situation. But every Notary can learn something from it. Here is what every Notary can do to avoid costly legal entanglements:

  • Write down the signer’s awareness and willingness in your journal. When a signer’s mental capacity could be questioned, note what you see, including how the signer acts, responds, and shows understanding.
  • Write down refusals and hesitation, too. Coming back over several days can be the right thing to do, but if left unexplained, those visits can be twisted in court to look like pressure. Note what happened, and why, every time in your journal records.
  • Try to bring in independent witnesses. A living witness who can later confirm the signer was aware and willing can be the difference between a case you can defend and one you have to settle.
  • Make sure you’re comfortable with your policy amount. When the Notary is the last defendant standing, the policy limit becomes the size of the case. And litigation is expensive. Make sure you have enough coverage.
  • Check the settlement agreement. If your case is ever settled, make sure the settlement agreement releases you from any further claims by the other party, not only the claims currently being asserted against you.

Bill Anderson is Vice President of Government Affairs at the National Notary Association.

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Danielle

14 Sep 2026

@June Siegel-Hill I'm looking to get into doing signings for Will and Estate planning. can you please let me know where you received your CNTDA training? Thank you in advance.

Linda

14 Sep 2026

In Texas, a Will does not need to be notarized, but it should be witnessed by two disinterested parties. The attorney I work for requires both.

maxine.johnson4@icloud.com

13 Sep 2026

I agree with azizjangbar@gmail.com. I would not have returned for a second attempt. I would have explained to everyone that I am now not comfortable that the signer is fully aware of what is occurring, and that they should find another notary. I hope the notary involved has recovered from this traumatic event.

J.F.

12 Sep 2026

Wow! As a new notary, the first comment by June hit it right on money: who needs this hassle? It was drilled in us during class "You are ONLY identifying the signer, the contents of the document don't matter". Also asked in class "do we need E&O insurance?" "no, unless you are signing mortgage documents". Good thing I haven't signed much and after reading all this, doubt I plan to. Thank you for all the comments.

June Siegel-Hill

10 Sep 2026

This article is ridiculous. Where is the link to this specific story? Yes, notaries should have more than $100K insurance policy, but where are the facts of this specific story? There are none. So the NNA has efficiently scared off notaries from taking on estate planning signings. If you're a new notary, make sure you get yourself substantial training so that you're confident about handling an estate plan signing. I've been doing them for six years and they are my favorite, probably because I've prepped my signers about what to expect. I've told them my requirements, and it's a long list. I refuse to be unprepared. And I took the amazing CNTDA training, so I know what could possibly happen and how to deal with it at the table. I just don't understand how notaries can read a factless article and conclude that they're going to deny will signings. Just make sure you get yourself the proper training and go out there and get the work!

Bill Anderson (NNA)

11 Sep 2026

Thank you for the comment. To protect the privacy of our insured and the other individuals involved, we included the facts from the claim that we were able to disclose. We agree that Notaries should not interpret this claim as a reason to avoid estate planning signings. Rather, the article is intended to illustrate how unexpected disputes can arise around estate documents and the insurance lessons Notaries can take from them. In fact, 15% of the claims against NNA $100,000 E&O policies since 2023 involve estate disputes such as the one discussed in the article. (Estate-related claims are third only to deed fraud and mortgage loan fraud.) For that reason, we believe it is important for Notaries to be prepared, thoroughly document relevant facts in their journal, and consider using their own witnesses when permitted by state law.

Michael Krumme

09 Sep 2026

Thank you Bill for your response to my comment. I understand the privacy aspects involved, as well as the NNA's desire to focus on what notaries public should and should not do in certain situations. I also VERY much appreciated your response to another commenter that explained the difference between Occurrence and Claims-Made policies. I have had a note on my desk (for YEARS) to call NNA's E&O insurer to ask what type of policy I have. I am very relieved to hear that I likely have a Claims-Made policy, so that I can relax after I eventually retire and relinquish my commission, knowing that if any claim arises during a period of coverage, I have at least $100K in available coverage.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

11 Sep 2026

You're welcome, Michael. Just to clarify, if you have a $100,000 policy from the NNA, it is an occurrence policy. Indeed, you can rest if that is the case.

Pam White

09 Sep 2026

Please continue to send these Eye-Openers - so interesting and informative! Thank you!

Bill Anderson (NNA)

11 Sep 2026

Thank you for commenting. Check your inbox for the second eye-opener article coming in October.

Lauri

09 Sep 2026

A signer at that age, regardless of the situation, I would recommend always having a witness present or a doctor's letter stating the signer's competency. A Notary must always, always, cover themselves!

azizjangbar@gmail.com

09 Sep 2026

I think going back after the first visit was the mistake. Why go back to someone who refused to sign the first time? Defending going back here is bad advice I believe. It's not worth the risk.

Brooke Mansfield

09 Sep 2026

The signer was in a facility. Where was the ombudsman? Did they call staff to testify as to her mental capacity? So many questions.

Jared

09 Sep 2026

Thank you for updating the article with the relevant information on document types. I do enjoy NNA articles, as most times they are written in a way to force me to think about how I do business and compete further research into my own states laws and regulations. I look forward to the rest of the articles in this series. It is an incredibly fascinating aspect of the notary business.

Lisa M Smith

09 Sep 2026

For me I would Not have done it-Client is 94 No surprise the sound mind came up-Bring witnesses and they sign Video record if its legal to do-make sure an attorney be present/available Get the Family involved This way All is covered I feel this Notary did not have it all covered by protection for themselves pretty self explanatory I see it-Common sense is Not soo common

Rosario Alcala

09 Sep 2026

Based solely on the information at face value of this story, that will sounds sketchy. Wills have witnesses and specific clauses for this very reason, unless it was a will written by a non attorney, or irresponsible attorney; although I didn't hear mention of any attorney in this story. This notary is 100% at fault for not refusing this notarization - which NEWS FLASH - notaries can refuse. I have also worked in probate, the first thing I'd do is review all notary stamps for validity. I've even called notaries personally to confirm their notarizations as they become a witness too after the signor has died. A big issue is that these days employees, or random people who want to be mobile notaries, do not understand this is a federal position that only involves you - even if an employer requested you become a notary and pay processing fees, they are not responsible for that notary's actions. When I studied to be a notary, many years ago, it was mandatory to attend an in person 8 hour class. I remember the majority of time, the instructor really drilled in to us the care we needed to take to avoid potential lawsuits, he had me terrified of not dotting an i or crossing a t - no joke. An acting notary has a bigger responsibility than they may realize, and this story is the prime example. Thank goodness for insurance.

Vickie Pashion

08 Sep 2026

NC requires 2 impartial witnesses on a will, health care power of attorney, and living will in addition to the notarization.

Kim

08 Sep 2026

When I worked for a Pennsylvania law firm, their wills usually had 2 to 3 uninvolved witnesses and whenever there was a disinherited heir, there was always a codicil which mentioned the disinherited person by name, stated that the signer was aware that they were not giving that person anything and further stated their reasons why (i.e., they had given them all they wanted to gift them during their lifetime and would not give them anything more). This was done to thwart any disputes.

Randy Brook

08 Sep 2026

In Washington, wills require two witnesses. If a notary is present at the signing, it is to notarize the signatures of the witnesses in case they are not available to testify later to the authenticity of their own signatures.

Michele Crefeld

08 Sep 2026

So, beyond following the law and documenting (which the article says this notary did), the only real way to prove we notaries have acted lawfully is going be to record our potentially contentious notarizations (I'm in one party state)?

Jared

08 Sep 2026

I'm in alignment with other commentators on the article. It seems to me that it is an entirely fictitious account designed to sell E&O insurance. There are no references to actual cases, and there are many discrepancies about how estate documents actually work. As pointed out by several other people, wills and trusts require witness signatures and some additionally require notarization. Not to mention that if this signer was in a rehab facility, they were under the care of medical professionals that all could have testified to the signers cognitive abilities. There are two lessons to take away from this article: 1. If it is truly the first of a series of articles, include case citations in future versions so facts can be checked. 2. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

09 Sep 2026

Thank you for your comment. The claim discussed in the article is very real. I've reviewed the claim summary, which was the source of information for the article, and the loss numbers associated with it. The claim summary was compiled based on allegations made in the lawsuit, recollections from the Notary over a year later, and contemporaneous notes about the transaction recorded in the Notary’s journal. Because this was an insurance claim involving our insured, we have an obligation to protect their privacy and others involved, which limits the details we can disclose publicly. Since publication, we've clarified with Merchants Bonding Company that, among the estate planning documents involved, the mother signed a revocation of a transfer on death deed that effectively disinherited her son of real property. Under the law of the state where this occurred, that document required the mother's signature to be acknowledged before a Notary Public, making the Notary's role an important part of the transaction. We've updated the article to include this information. I agree that readers should think critically and ask questions. In fact, some of the comments have prompted additional discussions with the insurer and helped us clarify aspects of the claim. However, the underlying claim itself was not hypothetical. It was a real E&O loss, and the purpose of the article was to share the lessons all Notaries can learn from it while respecting the privacy of those involved. The reality of this claim situation, as illustrated by the imperfect retelling of a story pieced together from allegations, recollections, and documents, is that we, the finder of fact, never know with certainty exactly what happened because we were not in the room when the signing occurred. That is the real risk the Notary faces when named in a lawsuit.

Caryn Fisher

08 Sep 2026

That notary should have brought in witnesses. Yes, witnesses - plural. At least two, in fact. The signer was in a facility and the notary should have asked for a patient advocate or ombudsman to come and witness/sign off on the Will as well. In most juridictions, Wills are supposed to be witnessed, not notarized. You CAN still have a Will notarized and have it hold up in court, but you're going to have an uphill battle from the start if anyone contests that Will, BECAUSE it was notarized instead of witnessed. Estate planning documents are nothing to be afraid of, but if you aren't used to them, they can seem just as daunting as escrow packets.

Lekan Sofolahan

08 Sep 2026

I still don't get it why the notary should be damnified and left to carry the blame in this case. I believe that the notary did not prepare the will, he was there to identify the signer, confirm her lucidity, and her awareness of the contents of the will, and thereafter to notarize the signer's signature on the will, all of which he did. So, why blame the notary. Or, is there something that I am missing?

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Thank you for your comment. You're not missing anything. The article isn't suggesting the Notary did anything wrong. The point is that she became the only defendant left standing. Sometimes litigation is driven less by fault than by who remains available to defend the case and satisfy a judgment.

Matthew

08 Sep 2026

No one questioned the use of an AI picture on this headline before it got published? Shame on you SoS's office. This crap needs to be banned in governmental agencies.

Ginnie

08 Sep 2026

As soon as she ripped it up and sent me an away. That would have been my red flag. She acted out of anger to me that is an emotional outburst and to me she’s not thinking clearly. I would have told them to find another notary to notarize the will. I’m not interested. Red Flags are a sign consequences are coming even if you heart is in the right place. Sometimes the answer to an unforeseen reality is “ NO”.

Mary Jo Landry

08 Sep 2026

Since notaries do not create the documents for the client to execute, in this case, one would imagine the estate planning company would have been in a position to back up the notaries claim that their client was of sound mind prior to setting up the notary appointment. Did not see any specific information regarding the firm requesting the notary initially. Seems incredibly fishy to me with this story.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Thank you for the comment. I don't think there's enough information in the insurance claim or lawsuit to conclude that anything "fishy" occurred. The article focuses on the claim against the Notary and the E&O policy as the sole remaining source of recovery, not every party involved in the estate plan. We simply don't have enough facts about the document preparers or their role in the litigation to draw those conclusions.

Esperanza Bevill

08 Sep 2026

Don't usually wills require a witness signature? That certainly would have established a defense for the notary.

Sybil Faust

08 Sep 2026

Is it possible to video tape a will signing?

Yvonne Alfaro

07 Sep 2026

Thank you for the reminder! It was definitely a good lesson on notarizing documents for a signer at a care facility.

Lynne Rousseau

07 Sep 2026

• Louisiana is the only state that requires a will to be notarized — and even there, it requires notarization and two witnesses present together, not the notary alone. If this story is set in Louisiana, where are the two witnesses in this account? Did they also conveniently pass away, or were they just left out of the story? If this story is set anywhere else, “notarizing a will” as the central act doesn’t match how wills actually work in any other state in the country — witnesses, not notarization, are what make a will valid almost everywhere. • No state, no case citation, no verifiable details — that’s not how a legitimate cautionary tale is typically presented. • The financial resolution described is suspicious on its face — a default judgment, followed by an E&O settlement based purely on “notary’s word against the son,” with no trial on the merits, doesn’t add up to a documented case. It reads like a scenario built backward from “you need our membership,” not something that actually happened. It strikes me as odd too that this notary had $100K in E/O policy. I personally carry $1,000,000.00 because every home in California is a minimum of one million dollars. National Notary Association — please check your facts before disseminating something this misleading to notaries who may take it as accurate guidance.

Richard C Herring

07 Sep 2026

To what extent is it permissible to record the testator? In Texas it’s legal to record with the consent of one of the parties present. Would a video of the testator confirming identity by appropriate?

Alessandra Panella

07 Sep 2026

For me, the biggest red flag was that she had already refused to sign once. When a signer shows hesitation, confusion, or distress, that tells me they’re not ready, not fully willing, or not fully understanding what they’re signing. In this case, I could clearly tell something was wrong. The indecisiveness, and even tearing up the paperwork, is a sign that the person is not in the proper state of mind to execute anything. Another concern: there were no witnesses. Documents of this nature typically require disinterested witnesses, so the absence of witnesses raised even more questions about whether the signing conditions were appropriate. Overall, I’m very selective about what I notarize. I need to be 100% sure the signer understands and agrees to what they’re signing. The moment I see refusal, confusion, or emotional distress, I stop the process. One refusal is enough for me.

Daniel Brewer

07 Sep 2026

Bill, do you forsee the NNAs E&O ordering expand beyond 100k? Looks like it is seeming to be smaller these days.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Daniel, that's a good question. $100,000 may seem small by today's standards. However, policies above $100,000 are typically claims-made policies, while NNA E&O policies are occurrence-based. With an occurrence-based policy, a notarization is covered as long as it occurred during the policy term, even if you later stop being a Notary. With a claims-made policy, coverage generally depends on keeping the policy in force when the claim is made. If you stop being a Notary and stop paying on the policy, a later claim may not be covered. Higher-limit policies also typically require underwriting. I realize this claim fully exhausted a $100,000 policy, but our claims experience is that most claims are significantly smaller. Another consideration is that, as the article notes, our attorneys required the plaintiff to sign a settlement agreement releasing the Notary from any further claims arising from the notarization. In short, we believe occurrence-based policies are the better fit for most Notaries.

Karen Denise Jennings

07 Sep 2026

I also agree. Yikes! Thank you for this discussion! I will also be thinking twice about notarizing estate planning documents.

Susan Brown

07 Sep 2026

Hindsight is 20/20. I now see the value of having 2 disinterested parties sign/witness the will.

Kristen D.

07 Sep 2026

Thank you for sharing this. It certainly brings home the point of being cautious and covering yourself just in case, since we don't really know anything about our clients other than what is on paper. I lean toward trusting my clients, and appreciate the reminder that we need to always keep it professional and err on the side of caution.

Tucker National Notary Services LLC

07 Sep 2026

I think this is a very good example of how notaries should pay strict attention to age and always in this type of circumstances have witnesses and at all and any state of possibility video evidence of the notary process.very good lesson to learn being smart and being overprotective can always be the best protection.

DARLA June Herrera

07 Sep 2026

A notaries assignment is to make sure the person signing a document is who they say they are. Yes, they should be alert and cognitive but why would a notary read the docs, to make sure someone isn't being disinherited. It’s always been my understanding that it is NOT the notaries responsibility to make sure the docs the signer is signing are correct or not.. Otherwise a notary is considered to be acting as an attorney, so which is? Should we no longer notarize wills or for senior citizens? The notary did what she was required to do, she notarized a signature and should not be held accountable for what was in the docs.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Darla, thanks for the comment. You are correct that a Notary is not responsible for judging whether the contents of a will are fair, wise, or legally sound, and nothing in the article suggests otherwise. The issue in this case was not that the Notary failed to review the estate plan or determine whether the son should be disinherited. The issue was that, after the signer died, the son's lawsuit challenged the circumstances surrounding the signing, including the mother's awareness and willingness. The Notary happened to be the last defendant standing who could testify about what was observed at the signing. I agree with you that the Notary appeared to do what was required. In fact, the article notes that the insurer and defense counsel believed the Notary would likely prevail at trial. The point of the article is not that Notaries should avoid notarizing wills or for senior citizens. Rather, it is that even when a Notary does everything correctly, a later family dispute can still draw the Notary into litigation. And a decision was made by the insurer to settle because it ultimately protected the Notary from incurring further defense costs and a judgment she would have had to pay on her own. At the end of the day, the insurance policy did what it was supposed to do: protect the Notary.

Cathy Town

07 Sep 2026

TWO witnesses should have been present and signed the documents as witnesses.

Warren

07 Sep 2026

I live and work in a retirement community and have done so for over 20 years. There have been numerous times that I have notarized documents where a person has been disinherited. Now going to think twice before I do another.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Warren, I totally get your response, but I wouldn't take away from this article that Notaries should avoid estate documents or senior signers. The Notary appears to have done the job properly. The takeaway is that these notarizations can be challenged later, so good records and, where appropriate, independent witnesses are especially important.

Ken H

07 Sep 2026

Thank you very much for sharing this story. It definitely brings light to certain situations. Taking notes are very important and also possibly asking the to be additional witnesses could be very helpful. Thanks again for bringing this our attention, appreciated

Keisha

07 Sep 2026

I am not understanding people saying the notary shouldn't have helped change the will if the signer is sick and/or to disinherit the son... as a notary it is not my job to read their will, or agree with what they are doing with their will or deny them service if they are sick so long as they are competent and aware and willing under no duress to sign..that is my job.

Deb Faiello

07 Sep 2026

What state was this will signed & notarized in? In NJ, 2 witnesses must be present at the time the will is signed and notarized. Would having 2 disinterested witnesses prevented this from happening?

Antionette Wilcox

07 Sep 2026

Thank you for sharing. It helps me stay alert.

ludwig knoester

07 Sep 2026

In california, wills are not notarized, it is witnessed by two people. This article implies all wills are notarized in all 50 states. I think you should add a disclaimer or exclusions or exceptions to avoid confusion.

Michael Krumme

07 Sep 2026

I have been an estate planning paralegal and California-commissioned notary public for 27 years. I have no fear notarizing estate planning documents. In California, non-holographic wills require two disinterested witnesses. Had the notary been in a state that uses witnesses instead of (or in addition to) notarization, he or she would have been on firmer ground. The article also fails to state the source of the documents. Presumably they were prepared by a law firm, and either the firm or the signer obtained the services of the notary/victim here. The article also fails to state why the plaintiff did not pursue collection efforts against the siblings upon whom default judgments were rendered. Further, the notary should not be reading the will, and should not be expected to know, understand, or explain its terms to the signer. The terms of the will were presumably discussed and agreed upon by the testator and her counsel. The fact that the signer tore up the will the first time might have been a red flag to the notary, though. After reading this, I would in the future hesitate to notarize a document for an elderly signer who had first done that... unless it was in a law firm environment where I worked.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

09 Sep 2026

Thank you for your comment and for sharing your perspective as both an estate planning paralegal and long-time Notary. You raise several fair questions. Because this was an insurance claim involving our insured, we were limited in the amount of information we could disclose publicly about the parties, the documents, and the surrounding circumstances. The claim summary that served as the source for the article did not identify who prepared the documents. Likewise, whether the disinherited son pursued recovery from his siblings was not central to the lessons the claim offers Notaries. What mattered for purposes of the article was that the son ultimately challenged the transaction and his losses were significant enough to name and seek recovery from the Notary in the lawsuit. The article was not intended to suggest that Notaries should review estate planning documents or explain their terms. Rather, it highlights the reality that a Notary may become involved in litigation when an estate plan is later challenged. As your experience suggests, most estate planning transactions proceed without incident.

Sue Palmer

07 Sep 2026

Is it wise for the notary to ask the "staff" about the decision making capacity or medications the signer may be on? It seems that is getting close to a HIPPA violation. This is a sad story. In CA the will must be witnessed by 2 people, one can be the notary, but maybe it's wise not to witness if a notary, especially in a situation where the signer is in a facility. Input?

Jen Gotta

07 Sep 2026

I worked for an Estate Planning & Probate Law Firm. It’s actually how I have my commission again. My father at the time was in and out of SNF’s (skilled nursing facilities) and due to the nature of the business, we at times, had to notarize estate plans at a facility. It is part of our job to ensure someone has cognitive abilities and assess a situation. If there is a question about whether someone is pressured, and the notarization falls on you, think twice. When it was at the firm, they would try to say it was on the attorney, but it was still my stamp. I believe it’s our job and duty to know these distinctions.

Pamela R.C. Parham

07 Sep 2026

I conquer and certainly having that insurance is a plus. I tell any person coming to me to get it and cover yourself completely.

Sheila E.

07 Sep 2026

You’re missing a big part of the story, and that is that an attorney would have prepared the will, and thus would have been able to testify as to the woman’s competency and wishes.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Sheila, thanks for your comment. An attorney may well have been involved, but the issue here was who could testify about what happened when the documents were actually presented and signed. According to the claim, the Notary was the only available witness to those events, and any attorney who may have been involved was not present to observe the signer's state of mind at that time.

Guillermo Reyes

07 Sep 2026

After reading this story, I will be video taping these king of notaries for my protection.

Mark Freatman

07 Sep 2026

Very odd that the documents didn’t require 2 witnesses. I never sign Will/Family Trusts and POA’s without them. That would’ve been my first request by the family; add 2 disinterested parties as witnesses to the Will. IMO

John Kriegsman

07 Sep 2026

Two red flags, cutting someone out of a will and being in a retirement home. The notary should have requested an impartial witness such as Ombudsman and probably an authority from the facility as well. I don’t believe its giving legal advice if its for the notary’s own protection.

S Freeman

07 Sep 2026

Something similar happened to me, where an elderly woman was removing a child from her will, property deeds and powers of attorney documents. I had the caretaker present, and asked competency questions, asked the caretaker to acknowledge that competency questions were asked and answered, and asked the caretaker to sign as a witness not charging any fees for the signature. My instincts, the disinherited child arrived with Police. The officer had advised me that I should be cautious with what I was performing. I advised the Officer that I could not refuse a legal request to notarize. The Officer also asked competency questions, and when the Officer had completed her competency questioning, I asked the officer for their business card, and badge number and asked the officer if they were satisfied with the competency of the signer, and noted it all in my Journal. This kept me from having to appear in court. All I was requested a certified copy of my journal entries. Strange things happen all the time!

Juan Jimenez

07 Sep 2026

This is why i use a video camera in these situations. A video record is indisputable evidence of the signer's mental acuity, and the sue-happy son would have had his ridiculous lawsuit tossed. If the signer objects to the video, I get up, tell them to find a different notary, and leave. End of discussion.

Matto

07 Sep 2026

I don’t know how the notary got in trouble, other than that the signer asked questions. I think that the notary answered the signer’s questions, which is a red flag. The signer might have asked, “Where am I supposed to sign? Am I supposed to sign here?” Instead of answering yes, the notary should have said, “I can only witness what you need to complete”.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Matto, that's certainly something a Notary should avoid, but there is no indication in the article that the Notary answered questions about the documents or provided legal advice. The dispute centered on the mother's capacity and willingness to sign, not on advice allegedly given by the Notary. The son pointed to the same events the Notary witnessed but interpreted them very differently.

Kenya Turner

07 Sep 2026

So my question is, if you get an elderly signer and they seemed to be competent, alert/aware. But they end up not signing the original document for a POA, a will, or any other document that a family member could benefit or have some sort of authority over a signer. If I felt there could be an legal issue later could I request a phone video of the signing with there permission as well as documenting my journal?

Deborah Y Burr

07 Sep 2026

I also would insist that no heirs be in the room during the signing.

Suzi Lee McMullen

07 Sep 2026

I was recently contacted by a family to come and get some p o a's done with their three adult children. And I thought this was a typical scenario where they were all of college age, and the parents just wanted to make sure that they were okay if they get sick at school. Once I got there though, there were three children. Two of them were willing and able, and seemingly understanding. But one of them did not want to sign, in fact, he was aggressively upset by the whole thing. He articulated his concerns very well and sat next to me and read every word. I completed the work for the two that were there. And they told me they would call me back when the other one was ready. I already knew the moment that I saw that call come through, I was going to be busy. I'm sorry for any other notary that gets involved. But to me, once a person doesn't wanna do it once I'm done. This story only shows that I was correct.

Roberta Arnone

07 Sep 2026

We don't notarize wills in the State of New York and our Notary Public License Law admonishes notaries who attempt to do so absent a licensed attorney on site to oversee the entire appointment and document it. See the annotated NYEPTL and top of page 14 of the March 2026 NY Notary Public License Law.

Gretchen-Elizabeth

07 Sep 2026

i am so... educated by your articles. thank you!!!!

Courtney

07 Sep 2026

Could you please point me in the direction of where and when this occured?

Angelia

07 Sep 2026

In situations like this, there wasn’t anything stated that she was pressured to excluded anyone from her will. However, I have seen in some cases when a will is modified (i.e., excluding someone out of the will) was due to that family member did not care for them, no longer in their life and/or was mistreated to name a few. Good idea to journal any interactions and/or actions that occur during a signing. Glad the notary was cleared.

Paul Peterson

07 Sep 2026

Would it be appropriate to video the notarization visit, in cases where the act may be questioned, such as a notary being sent away and asked to return? Obviously, this would be with the signer's consent.

National Notary Association

08 Sep 2026

Paul, that is an excellent question raised by you and other readers. However, Notaries should be cautious about taking this step. In some states, laws may prohibit videotaping the notarial act unless all parties consent, because the conversations may contain confidential interactions. We plan to research this question more fully for an upcoming Bulletin article. In the meantime, we urge Notaries to obtain legal advice from a qualified attorney or other authorized legal professional whether videotaping is permitted before proceeding.

Eugenie Pence

07 Sep 2026

If a signer refused to sign and ripped up the documents, I would decline to notarize on a subsequent visit. In my state, North Carolina, 2 witnesses are required and most often are listed in the notary certificate and swear under oath as to the signer's capacity to sign willingly. So in this case, the witnesses would have appeared as part of the lawsuit.

Mimi Starks

07 Sep 2026

Absolutely an eye opener for all states, however complying with state law would’ve been a consideration made along with the challenging behavior identified in the encounters previously. Yes these are unfortunately red flags. A good lesson learned for all who have read this event. Thanks for the share.

Lola Lewis

07 Sep 2026

You can do everything right as a notary. Check cognitive state by asking g questions. Having witnesses too. But witnesses also die. And most times there’s no address for them. And they are not known by either signer or notary. Just a random person. So this is all hindsight. I don’t think it should have been on the notary at all. Just because person tore it up means nothing really. If they had called another notary after that that other notary would have been charged not knowing it was torn before. So this notaries reputation was tainted for no reason. And had to settle when she did nothing but her job.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Lola, I agree with you that the claim was difficult precisely because the Notary appears to have been performing the job carefully and still found herself defending a lawsuit. Spoiler alert: this series, called "E&O Eye Openers," often challenges our sense of what is right and fair. Stay tuned for the other articles. 😉

Tom Thompson

07 Sep 2026

So how do you document or prove the witness if they are unwilling or unable to appear in court?

NADINE RAYMOND

07 Sep 2026

My question is weather in California it would be legal to video all or any interactions with the signer

Anne

07 Sep 2026

Thanks for sharing this is definitely eye opening knowledge, as like someone pointed in the comments prior - Arizona requires 2 independent witnesses however more often you are seeing the request for mobile services for estate and will planning from folks in nursing homes and more aging persons etc...this now validates my personal feelings...that in such cases there should be attorney involved, as many family members are rushing even the physical circumstances of the person involved. It's a shame that the notary unfortunately was hit with something that possibly was completely out of he/she control. At 93 years of age again should have been an eye opener and the fact the person was living in a facility ...but to the point the Notary should have NOT been engaged in any conversation relative to the documents with the exception of notarizing or provide oaths as needed. I do hope this did not discourage the notary from continuing to offer services.

lkrawitz@gmail.com

21 Aug 2026

Estate planning documents aren't something a notary should fear. The situation outlined here is certainly an outlier. In my opinion, this is about good judgment and awareness. The fact that the signer was cutting a family member out of the will is a big red flag. A good notary professional should be able to see the ramifications if things go sideways. It's definitely a cautionary tale.

Terri

20 Aug 2026

Why help change a sick person's Will. Clearly she was pressured by the family member to make a change in the Will. No wonder it went to court.

Terrell Vause

20 Aug 2026

Looks like mobile notary has helped create a bad situation.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

07 Sep 2026

Thank you for the comment. As discussed in the article, the problem stemmed primarily from the disinherited son's actions after the will was signed, not from any error by the Notary. Based on the facts presented, our insurance adjusters concluded the notarization itself was properly performed. The claim serves as a reminder that lawsuits can arise from unexpected circumstances, particularly when estate documents are involved, and offers lessons other Notaries can learn from the experience.

Joan

18 Aug 2026

In Arizona a will signing includes 2 witnesses as well as the notary unless the Will is holographic. With a holographic Will, it is written completely in the person’s own handwriting with no witnesses or notary. What a horrible experience for this notary! I would insist on witnesses whether required by state law or not!

National Notary Association

18 Aug 2026

Because wills are complex and sensitive legal documents, Notaries who are not attorneys should never offer legal advice or provide unauthorized instructions to signers regarding wills. Doing so could be considered the unauthorized practice of law. A will should never be notarized if the testator is asking the Notary questions about how to proceed. Rather, the testator should be following authoritative legal instructions and a certificate or certificates must be provided for the Notary to complete. For more information, please see here: https://www.nationalnotary.org/knowledge-center/about-notaries/tips-tutorials/notarize-wills

Linda Costigan Krueger

11 Aug 2026

Yikes! Thank you very much for this eye-opener, Mr. Anderson. It will make me think twice about notarizing estate planning documents.

Bill Anderson (NNA)

08 Sep 2026

Hi Linda, we certainly don't want Notaries to conclude they should avoid estate planning documents. I'll be open and honest with you: this case scared me when I first heard about it. It's OK to be concerned, as long as you use that concern to become better prepared. That's exactly why we wrote these "E&O Eye Openers" articles. Stay tuned for the others. 🙂

Marcia Levinson

11 Aug 2026

Since the woman was in a rehab facility, the notary might have asked the professional staff if she had decision making capacity, and if there was medical record documentation. That would have been important in the notary's defense.

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